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I don't know what to call this - an announcement? an open call? (Ben and Dean)
ben loves dean
innie_darling
Hi, everybody!

I've been trying, since I finished scene ten and I got through NaNo, to write scene eleven of the Ben/Dean series. All I've come up with are notes. Very nice notes that make me happy, but they're just not coming together to form a coherent scene.

So I tried to think about why that might be. And I think I know at least one reason. Each scene has had a reason, something that could be summarized with a description: the one where Ben and Dean meet, the one where Dean tells Ben the truth about his life, the one where they decide this is a relationship, the one where they realize the Sam connection, the one where they realize how very alike they are, the one where Ben helps Dean with the supernatural, the one where Dean meets Ben's family, the one where Ben lets Dean go be the best brother ever, the one where Dean comes back, and the one where they defeat the enemy together. Even the one where Dean meets a friend of Ben's had a point (I think).

Now, I've got notes for scenes eleven (the one where they hash things out with Sam and John) and twelve (the one where they get their happy ending) and that's it. I can't really see where this series goes beyond that. I don't think it *does* go beyond that. And so perhaps my inability to write scene eleven is a way of putting off the end of this project, which I love so very much. Hmmm.

BUT. Since you guys have been so incredibly generous with your comments, and since I do feel like we're all going halfsies in Ben and Dean, I wanted to ask if you guys had any input. Is there something you've been wanting to see in a Ben and Dean scene? Is there something without which the series will feel incomplete to you? Obviously, I'm not promising anything here, but if you mention something I can work with that will fit with the ideas I've got (or, even better, make me re-evaluate my ideas), I'll do my best to write it.

Let me know!

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you know I'll read anything with Ben and Dean in it. I especially love the domestic scenes where they are doing mundane things like sharing cornflakes.

what about a scene a year or so down the line, or maybe when Ben gets a permanent position at a clinic, and they realize they can pick out a bigger apartment? One with reliable heat? I can't see either of them knowing what to make of that situation at first.

Aw, thanks!

The situation you're outlining is already part of the plan for scene twelve! Whoot!

How about....

the one where Dean takes Ben to the Grand Canyon (or vice versa)
the one where Dean is Ben's date for the staff holiday party
the one where Dean takes Ben to his favorite hole in the wall diners on dates

and... I don't know how you feel about this, but I'd love to see Ben and Dean have a fight-- maybe it's just me, but I find in a relationship I gotta know we can fight and still come out the other end of it, otherwise I feel like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Just a thought :)

Thanks for playing! I myself haven't been to the Grand Canyon, so I think your first suggestion might be beyond me. But the second and third look like stuff I've already got in my scene twelve notes! Yay!

I hear what you're saying about the fighting. I think they have done some fighting offscreen, and in any case they both know - now that they've saved each other's lives - that this is for real.

That's incredibly generous of you to ask! I personally am really looking forward to the one where they hash things out with Sam and John. Especially Sam. I hate to see it come to an end, too, but I believe that however you do it, it'll be true and yes and ohboys.

Thank you for chiming in! I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens with Sam too, honestly.

I don't think this story has to have an over-arching plot, because real life is all about the little moments. So, I think doing chapters which are "day-in the life" sort of chapters is a beautiful thing and can be done very effectively. That being said, I do have a few ideas that you might find interesting:

Exploring the conflict between Sam-Dean-Ben. Where Dean has to choose who to be there for. Maybe Ben invites Dean to meet his family and he flakes out on him to help Sam? Ben should definitely get upset at Dean and confront him about where exactly their relationship is going.

Ben's family finding out about Dean and disapproving of their relationship. Ben could invite Dean to his parents house for Thanksgiving or something. Of course Dean will angst over it and be very nervous, but maybe he will go anyway. Ben's family might not greet Dean with open arms because they disagree with what they are told about Dean's background and/or maybe they are homophobic. Ben's friends can also enter the picture and evaluate Dean as becoming part of their inner-circle, with suspicion of course.

I think it would be cool if Ben is now a target of the supernatural, and therefore Dean takes him to the Roadhouse because its a safe house. Ben could have more interaction with Den's "family", such as the Harvelles and Bobby and John. Also, it would be interesting if Sam is there too. Maybe they are all gearing up for the war to come and therefore closing ranks. Sam could either prove antagonistic towards Ben and try to break up Dean and Ben's relationship, or he could, through more interaction with Ben, start to develop feelings for him again.

Anyways, those are some things I just thought of, but honestly, anything you write is going to be superb so just have fun. :)


Thanks for indulging me! I do like the everyday-moments feel of the scenes, and I agree that that concept can be spun out indefinitely, but since scene ten included actual plot, I feel like there's a natural denouement that needs to occur now.

Dean has already met Ben's family, and there weren't any issues with that - Ben's been out since high school, so there were no surprises. I would like Dean to meet more of Ben's friends, but they are scattered all over the country. Hmmm.

As for the war coming, that's a really neat plot - and how handy to have a doctor on their side! - but these scenes are an AU, and the YED's dead without opening any gates to hell.

Thanks again!

I like all the suggestions so far.
I think I'd like the moment when Ben says to Sam, "You don't get to talk to him like that." Where it's clear that even if no one else does, Ben puts Dean first, and sticks up for him. Then I'd like Sam and Dean to make up, after Sam awkwardly saying sorry and Dean being a bit embarrassed by Sam saying sorry. But kind of touched that Ben, who's usually so soft-spoken, will be steely to protect him.

I'd like, randomly, the one where Dean brings Ben a puppy for his birthday to keep him company when Dean's away hunting (because I'm soppy, I can't help it).

Ahhh I just spent too long thinking about those scenarios. I love Ben and Dean.



Hee, why can I imagine you blocking the whole scene out in your head?

Yes, scene eleven is definitely going to need some protective Ben, though I don't think Sam's ire is going to be directed only at Dean . . .

Ha, puppy! Not with the hours these boys keep, I don't think. But I think there will be a new circle of friends to come in scene twelve, so Ben shouldn't be too lonely.

Thanks, honey!

(Also, ps, how are you doing with your bigbang? I meant it when I said I'd read a draft whenever you've got one ready.)

Ooh, this is fun. I'd like to see the following:

1 - a scene where Ben calls Sam on the real reason for his jealousy.

2 - a scene between Ben & John because zomg this is the first time they've met face to face (demon possession aside) and John might mention Bobby's been in his ear that at last Dean's finally met a good one and John is not to fuck it up.

HA! Your second scenario made me laugh for five straight minutes. Oh, Bobby! You old softie!

There's going to be plenty of ugliness and jealousy and accusation flying around in scene eleven, never fear. John will most likely be in the corner with big, frightened eyes.

Thanks so much for your input - I always look forward to hearing from you!

No surprise here, but I'd love to see Ben and Dean go to Disney(World and/or Land) and possibly win one of the Year of a Million Dreams prizes. Or something involving sushi.

But really, anything the boys do is wonderful to read, so, much with the happy.

Your feeling about not wanting the *story* to conclude, though, makes perfect sense, so, *hugs*.

Aw, thanks! Sushi, I think, is beyond me; I'm a vegetarian, and I can't even imagine what it must taste like.

Happiness is definitely in the cards for these two, don't you worry!

Actually, I personally hate raw fish (UGH!) but I love nori and rice, so I discovered mushroom sushi - no fish, just mushrooms, rice and the seaweed (some places include avocado, but I am not a fan of that green fruit so I ask for it without). If you like mushrooms, I highly recommend it, although it is hard to find - sometimes it isn't on the menu so you need to ask for it specifically.

I'm thinking a happy ending is all i really want from this fic. And...possibly...for Dean to realize exactly *why* Sam choose Ben in the first place and then broke up with him.

...

Unless that's been covered and i can't remember. I have a terrible memory. Don't hate me!
Um.

I just luff these boys, and the two chapters you've got outlined sound marvelous to me. I just hope Dean never quits the job, 'cause he's not Dean, to me, without that....

OMG, you don't have every word memorized? BANNED!

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Or, actually, thanks for being so generous with your comments all along and for playing again here. There will DEFINITELY be a happy ending. Absolutely. I refuse to write anything else.

And I agree that the happy ending includes Dean staying Dean, staying a hunter. No question.

Heeeee!
Gods, my memory is seriously horrible. But it *does* mean that i reread a lot and stuff is oh so fun all over again.
:)

Yay, happy! Yay, Dean the hunter!
*la*
*twirls you*

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Dude, seriously, if you think I'm that technologically advanced, then I guess I'm flattered. (I'll look into how to do that.) Ooh! You know what would be awesome? Is if the two artists who've drawn Ben and Dean for me would let me include their art in the pdf!

THERE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE A HAPPY ENDING. Now watch, I'll get hit by a bus and be unable to write it. But just know I'm thinking HAPPY ENDING as hard as I can.

Thank you for playing!

All you have to do is get an account with writely/gmail/google, and paste your entire story into Writely, then select SAVE AS PDF. It will do the rest, and it's such a nifty way to let people get the whole of a story in one download.

Just FYI. :D (sorry for jumping in - I was reading down from my post above)

God I love this, I agree, I'd love to see any of these, especially one where Ben just puts Dean above everything else, and calling Sam on him not doing it. Maybe not in a major way, or even in a way that Dean would ever know, but that Ben confronts Sam on how much he can hurt Dean with out thinking about it.

Oooh, Ben taking Sam aside to whap him upside the head has definite appeal, I won't lie. eeeeeeeee!

Thank you so much for the help!

So, I read all of the Ben/Dean scenes again this morning. And mostly? I just don't want it to be over. I really, really don't. I'm happy anticipating the climax re: their intersecting lives and Ben and Dean's happy ending. Is that weird? I just love it so much: both generally, in that it's an OMC relationship that doesn't resolve into Sam/Dean or otherwise end, and specifically, the world you've built here. I've never read OMC fic that I've loved more than this.

But: since the end is coming, the only thing I can think of that I'd love to see is some acknowledgment by Sam, explicit or not, that Dean is happy and deserves to be happy. Because he really is and totally does, and that's an awesome thing.

Dude. I've not been having the best time lately, and this comment just made me so happy and teary. Thank you!

I'm so pleased that you love these scenes, and that you love Ben, and . . . yeah, because I do too and it's so nice to share! And you're absolutely right, that it would be wonderful to see Sam realizing that Dean's not only found happiness, but that he deserves it too. Thanks for the sweet idea!

I'd just like to say that I really liked basically all of that universe that I've read, and Ben is maybe my favorite OC ever in SPN fic. :) So, I'm adding you so I don't miss out on any more of this fic you put out there. And there's a happy ending in store? That makes me really, really happy. :D

As for anything I'd like to see? I'll have to get back to you on that. And ATM, I can't really think of anything constructive except that you may have used "too" instead of "to", once. Not helpful, I know, and I'm sorry...maybe I'll think of something constructive by the next part. *wiggles eyebrows*

Thanks so much for the kind words! It makes me so happy that people like Ben. And I have no intention of breaking my own heart by not giving the boys the happy ending they've earned so many times over.

Take your time with the ideas - I'm not doing a lot of writing these days due to work and other reasons. Once I get back into my groove, I'm looking forward to more time with my favorite boys.

So I just read this and just commented but, since you asked, I would love to see Ben just reaming Sam for the way he treats/hurts Dean - maybe even bringing up Dean's ordeal in getting to Sam after Jessica's death and how he gave Dean the "Dean you're so dumb" looks. Also, some of what the demon said about Sam ditching Dean has to be a sore spot in poor abandoned-by-all-except-Ben-Dean.
I would love to see Ellen and Bobby meeting Ben and being all "what are your intentions" since, you know, JOHN won't do it!

So yeah, AMAZING SERIES! I can't wait for the rest!

-Marvin

Thanks for playing!

I do want Ben to stand up for Dean, absolutely. But I think Ben realizes that Dean doesn't think of Sam as the enemy, so he has to walk a very fine line.

I'd like Bobby to stay part of this story for sure, but I'm not sure about Ellen. Because John's still alive here, the Roadhouse revelations have not occurred, and I don't know that I particularly want them too. Especially since the Roadhouse's location doesn't match up with the geography I have planned for the last two scenes. But we'll see - these boys are constantly surprising me.

Thanks again!

Wow. The fact that the boys haven't met Ellen totally slipped my min - she's just that awesome! Again, I can't wait for the rest but, believe me, I know how hard it is to force a story when you're not ready! (My current WIP has been a WIP for about a year and a half now - and I'm only on chapter six! It's driving me absolutely batshit insane!) Anyway, responding to your response to my other comment (did that make sense?) someone was looking for Dean/OMC at spnstoryfinders and someone rec'd this 'verse. I'm really glad too!

-Marvin

I like Ellen and Jo, but I like them much more when they're on their own. For some reason, having the Winchesters around makes them seem like less interesting characters to me.

I totally sympathize on the WiP!

And thanks for letting me know about the storyfinders post!

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